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Don’t mention the mosque

17 October 2015

9:00 AM

17 October 2015

9:00 AM

There are many contenders for the Basil Fawlty ‘Don’t mention the Mosque’ award, which has been unofficially running ever since Farhad Jabar nipped home from school a fortnight ago, threw on a black robe, popped by the local mosque, picked up a gun, and murdered a police accountant, before bellowing out a last prayer praising Allah.

An honourable mention must go to Mohamed Taha, the ABC’s western Sydney reporter, who told viewers, even before the police had issued a statement on the night, that the murder had nothing to do with terrorism. And ABC online stuck bravely to the broadcaster’s narrative that night despite the evidence of our own eyes.

But this pales compared to Peter Lloyd’s effort. On ABC radio’s PM, a full five days after the event, Lloyd leapt over the issue of terrorism as nimbly as a youthful Nadia Comaneci. Early in the report, a friend of Jabar describes the shooter as a ‘really nice and humble kid’ and not ‘that much of a bad person’.

But, Lloyd intones, ‘since Saturday police and politicians have been calling Farhad Khalil Mohammad Jabar something else’. Seemingly loath even to utter the ‘t’ word, Lloyd cuts to NSW Police Commissioner Andrew Scipione saying, ‘We believe his actions were … linked to terrorism’.

But, Lloyd sniffs, that ‘narrative is supported only by the violent execution of a police employee by a teenager expressing disputed phrases before he was gunned down’. According to Lloyd there was ‘no trail that leads to terrorism other than the fact that the teen is a Muslim and his target a seemingly randomly chosen adult male who was leaving the police headquarters at that time of day’.

Indeed, Lloyd revealed, ‘PM has been given an alternative scenario… that the teen was visiting the local mosque at Parramatta not for radicalisation but to avoid school where he’d been bullied’.

In Lloyd’s ‘alternative scenario’ visiting a mosque is no different to visiting a church or a synagogue. And the president of the Muslim Women’s Association agreed, ‘whether we’ve got a mosque, you’ve got a church, you’ve got a synagogue, you’ve got a temple, this always is a symbolic place where you can turn to… a mosque is a safe haven…’

‘He probably had mental health issues’, Lloyd concluded, lamenting that this has not been given ‘fair attention’.


The point of these mental gymnastics is to avoid, at all costs, admitting the link between Islam and Islamism, the fact that lurking in the shadows of a suburban mosque or prayer hall there might be people who, instead of preaching peace, love and understanding, are mixing religious messages with incitement to hatred, murder, anti-Semitism, anti-Western propaganda and world domination.

When it comes to dangerous language, it isn’t the siren song of Islamists that the politically correct have in their sights but former prime minister Tony Abbott.

According to Muslim community leader Dr Jamal Rifi, it was Abbott who had alienated Muslims by talking about ‘Team Australia’ and referring to Isis as a death cult.

‘I believe Malcolm Turnbull will be more mature and insightful and that the government he leads will not fall for such short-minded, unwise use of words’, Dr Rifi said.

Got it? Mention Team Australia and Muslims will refuse to combat Islamist terrorism.

When Premier Mike Baird suggested an audit of prayer groups in public schools, Sheikh Wesam Charkawi told ABC’s The Drum that the Muslim community felt unfairly targeted.

‘Will other faith groups be targeted as well?’ asked Charkawi as if Presbyterian lone wolves were a particularly pressing threat that was being ignored.

‘There’s no evidence whatsoever that teaching religion in schools has led to violent extremism in any way, shape or form’, he insisted, despite the fact that the premier announced the audit after a Year 12 student at Epping Boys High School was reported to be preaching in support of Isis at his school.

Thus, while the ABC’s 7.30 this week scrutinised the unsavoury backgrounds of some of the Bendigo mosque’s opponents, almost no attention has been paid to Australian Islamic Mission (AIM), the group stumping up a cool $3 million to finance it. As it turns out, AIM happily invited Tareq Al Suwaidan to launch a fundraising campaign, a man whose sermons are so violently anti-Semitic that he was banned from attending a Muslim Fair in Belgium last year.

In one sermon Suwaidan said, ‘All the mothers of the Islamic nation – not only Palestinian mothers – should suckle their babies on the hatred of the sons of Zion. We hate them. They are our enemies. We should instill this in the souls of our children, until a new generation arises and wipes them off the face of the earth’.

It’s a message that probably wouldn’t worry the Grand Mufti of Australia. In 2012, he led a delegation of scholars to Gaza, met Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh and said, ‘I am pleased to stand on the land of jihad to learn from its sons… we feel like we are on cloud nine’.

The Grand Mufti was another who declined to utter the ‘t’ word in relation to the Parramatta attack and apparently offered no support to Parramatta mosque leader Neil El-Kadomi. Kadomi told Fairfax he got more support from the Anglicans and the Jewish Board of Deputies in the last fortnight and called for a ‘Mufti who can speak English, who is qualified to be a Mufti’.

Freedom of expression and religious freedom are cornerstones of Australian democracy and understandably governments are loath to curb either. But the government had no trouble banning Christian anti-abortionist, Troy Newman, on the flimsiest of pretexts even though there is little evidence that Newman was inciting violence. John Stuart Mill argued that there should be the fullest liberty of expression to push arguments to their logical limits rather than the limits of social embarrassment.

‘The only purpose for which power can be rightfully exercised over any member of a civilized community, against his will, is to prevent harm to others.’

We do the opposite. Political correctness silences a debate about Islamism, which allows Islamists wolves to prey on Muslim flocks. There is abundant evidence that Islamist hate speech inspires violent crimes.

Yet it is we who are cowed into silence, not the friends of Hamas.

Rebecca Weisser is a freelance writer

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  • Sue Smith

    As I’ve said many times before, these actions and behaviours of our public media (risible!) are worthy of the Politburo! Fairfax is free to airbrush, but it is not paid for by the taxpayer, so I don’t care. It’s very tabloid these days anyway.

  • Fdink

    Bang on the head. The intimidation and retreat from free speech is a national disgrace.

    It is overshadowed by only one other: The practice is promulgated through public funds – by the national broadcaster.

    History repeats itself.

  • Jack Richards

    Allah Akbar! Islam is the “Religion of Piece” – a piece of a body here, another there, an arm, a hand, a leg, a young girl’s clitoris or two, the odd crucifixion and beheading, giving gays a free flight from the top of a tall building, a stoning or two and, just for a bit of additional entertainment, the occasional burial of someone who is still alive.
    Muslims believe in free speech. You can say anything you like on the one reasonable condition that it does not insult Islam or any Muslim – and that encompasses anything and everything not approved by the Koran.

    • Brian

      For years, I’ve been referring to Islam as the religion of pieces.

      • cartimandua

        Try saying that on the Times today. The mods are out in force.

      • Sunshine Sux

        religion of pi.ss also works

    • Sue Smith

      Yes, they believe in free speech; as long as it agrees with everything they believe.

    • Sue Smith

      LOL

    • LadyMoonlight

      Sorry, I did not read your comment before I posted 🙂

  • lenzicon

    Any genuine peace-loving Muslim would, in these days of Islamist terrorism pull his/her head in, dress like a normal human being and keep his/her religion private. The fact that increasing numbers of these people are doing the exact opposite indicates they want to advertise their links to Islam, and by association, Islamism. Peace-loving people? You be the judge.

    • cartimandua

      Well they are too dim to understand the difference between faith and religiosity and they didn’t get the memo about how we have come to have freedom of individual belief.
      It wasn’t by accident.
      I am disgusted by Muslim women who claim to be moral beings yet choose to wear the Muslim version of a KKK hood.
      Its the uniform of child rapists and beheaders and its mainly Muslims being harmed.

      So who do they actually feel empathy for?

      • Niqabi Girl

        Do not equate the KKK hood to the Muslim women’s headscarf or Niqab. I do not draw parallels of Christians or Jews as being hateful, but Instead it is people in every single religion that have issues, it’s not the religion, it’s the people within these religions that take things to another level because perhaps lack of education about what their religion is. The crusaders (Christians) murdered massive amounts of people, colonialists utilized Christianity as a means to enslave Africans, eradicate cultures in South America and wanted to “civilize” women in Arab lands by removing their clothes, as well as “civilize” women in Africa by putting clothes on them. It’s the EXACT same thing, the utilization of a religion in order to twist it and make it serve a purpose.

        Neither Christians, nor Jews, nor Muslims, nor Buddhist, nor Hindus, nor Mormons, etc. should be painted and categorized with the same Brush. When someone “white” commits a crime; no one digs into their religious affiliation, because the religion can be interpreted and misinterpreted in many different ways. How many atrocities have been committed by Christians and Democracies in order to “civilize” people? We don’t recall these things because they are in the past, but these things come back and haunt us as we’ve failed to rectify the conditions that have become grounds of hatred. Women who wear the Niqab and the Hijab are women who do not buy into the industry of makeup, of plastic surgery, of consumerism for public gaze. An example of a few people do not represent a religion, but rather see the example of these people as a failed understanding of the religion. I do not judge Christianity, Judaism, etc. because of the failures of people who have misinterpreted these religions.

        Muslims are also not all “immigrants”; some Muslims are born, raised in Western countries and have families that have been here for centuries, these are converts to Islam who all of a sudden find themselves being dehumanized from their society because they choose to embrace a religion in a country that promotes freedom of religion. What do we say to the converts? Why continue to demonize religions because of a few bad apples.

        • Reluctant Mlungu

          Nice try, apologist… perhaps you can remind us of the last stabbing, bombing, rape or honour killing in the name of Christianity, Judaism, et al.

          • Niqabi Girl

            Hmmm… The State of Israel? Wisconsin Sikh Temple massacre? Look up more, I don’t have time to educate your lazy mind.

          • Reluctant Mlungu

            “The State of Israel” is an egregious mass crime in the name of Judaism? Charming… says it all about you and your ilk.
            And speaking of lazy, are you one of the 25% of musim women in the UK who actually work for a living?

          • Niqabi Girl

            Hmm I work and I attend graduate studies, that is studies beyond an undergraduate degree 🙂 As for the State of Israel, it can be twisted to be a mass crime in the name of Judaism; depends on who you ask. Do all non-Muslim women work for a living?

          • Reluctant Mlungu

            1. The fact that you had to mention your graduate studies, when answering a question about working, leads me to suspect you don’t really work, then, in the regular sense of the word.
            2. “It can be twisted” again reveals your self-serving logic.
            3. In the UK, the vast majority do, yes.

          • Sunshine Sux

            Over 50% of MUslim males, and 80% of muslim females in Britian are on benefits. They are inbred, useless parasitic cockroaches, who contribute nothing to the world, nor to humanity.
            Expect blowing each other to pieces, we welcome that.

          • cartimandua

            The % of Muslim women who work in the UK is around 25%. In other Muslim countries like Pakistan it is lower than that at 14%. In Palestine it is one of the lowest rates in the world while the birth rate is the highest in the region.

            http://www.theguardian.com/business/economics-blog/2015/mar/03/uk-climbs-women-in-work-rankings

            The UK is spot on the OECD average at 60%.
            A peek at the horrible patronizing views on islamonline explains why so few Muslim women work.
            She has to ask permission from her owner.

          • Solage 1386

            There is no comparison. 99% of terrorist attacks are committed by Muslims, and you know it. So do we all. Islam is much hated, and there is nothing, nothing at all, that either you or anyone else can do about it. Debate is no longer of any use. It is far too late for that.

          • mohdanga

            Please compare the number of attacks made in the name of Islam to that made in the name of Judaism. Talk about a lazy mind. Now back to your ‘Oppression Studies’ course.

        • cartimandua

          I will equate the hijab (let alone the niqab) with the insignia of the most vile fundamentalist groups because it is true.
          Gender apartheid is a vile disgusting ideology which makes failed societies.
          Women are routinely abused and it is legal to abuse them in Muslim countries and in Muslim culture.
          Modesty is not the cloth on your head that makes you ill. That is self harming behaviour that will cost the rest of us . Its the Muslim women’s drug of choice.
          Masochism is a perversion that some people enjoy.
          Gender apartheid makes women “sinful” while male violence gets a free pass.
          We see it everywhere.
          Where women are supposed to be in the home popping out kids there is poverty, overpopulation, unemployment, and in the end conflict.
          You don’t have to “buy into” a consumerist view of women but the funny thing is you already do.
          Covering makes you an owned body owned by some man.
          Most of us in the UK have more self esteem than that.

          • Solage 1386

            “Arabian Knights,
            They said I’d be impressed.
            Arabian Knights,
            At your primitive best”.
            (Siouxsie and the Banshees, 1981)

        • hobspawn

          A few bad apples, huh?

          Quran (47:3-4) “…when you meet (in fight Jihad in Allah’s Cause), those who disbelieve smite at their necks till when you have killed and wounded many of them, then bind a bond firmly (on them, i.e. take them as captives)…”

          Quran (9:29) – “Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.”

          They are not bad apples, they are good moslems. Your Niqab shows us all that you support their violence.

        • Mr B J Mann

          That’s because Christians emerged from the Middle Ages after the, ermrmmm, Middle Ages!

        • Solage 1386

          So why don’t Muslim men wear a burka?

          • Sunshine Sux

            too uncomfortable for raping

        • Solage 1386

          The Prophet Mohammed (PBUH) was a paedophile.

          • Sunshine Sux

            ‘pi.ss be upon him’

        • Sunshine Sux

          Islam is the only religion on earth, that can not live in peace with Jews, CHristians, Kurds, Hindus, Buddhists, Sikhs, or even their own.

          Nobody kills more muslims, than other muslims.
          Wherever Islam goes, war, bloodshed, misery and death follow.
          That is all there is to know about this pedophile death cult.

          • Shorne

            Of course there are Jihadi terrorists but not all Muslims are Jihadis and those who comment here and in other places ignore that because it contradicts their agenda. They have virtually the same mindset as the terrorists.
            There is another side. When MPs Galloway and Ward were making anti-Semitic statements barely concealed as anti-Zionism in Bradford earlier this year the last synagogue in the town was threatened with closure as the dwindling Jewish community couldn’t afford to maintain it. It survives because the Muslim community raised the necessary funds to repair it and a Muslim now sits on the synagogue council.

            My wife and children are Jewish and we live in a London Borough where 44% of the inhabitants were born abroad hence my children went to school with peers with a wide variety of creeds, including Muslims. My younger daughter went to Muslim friends’ houses, sometimes for sleep overs and there was never a problem. Since leaving school she has accompanied Muslim friends on visits to their families abroad.
            When I worked in a prison radicalisation was a problem, nobody worked harder to challenge and combat it than the Imam and his assistant.
            I anticipate that, as usual, responses to this comment will include calling me a ‘cultural Marxist’,’ Lefty anti-white racist traitor’ and all the usual dreck but I stopped worrying about that ages ago.

          • Sunshine Sux

            wait another 10 years and your daughter’s friends will get threatened in their mosques for associating with filthy zionists

            you’d think that liberal open muslims would adopt a more western approach, while living int he west, but don’t be fooled: the veils come down faster, the burkas are everywhere, the radicalism is getting younger. Beware of snakes. who’ll poison their own, they have no qualms in biting you too.

          • Shorne

            As I said same agenda as Jihadists. You avoided mentioning Bradford I see.
            Here’s some more for you to avoid
            ‘Muslims and Jews living in the same North London neighbourhood are making a stand together against hate crime amid concerns of an increased threat to both communities in the aftermath of the Paris attacks.’
            ‘Rapid worldwide growth for Jewish-Muslim alliance
            In just a few years, international conference series has expanded to included hundreds of activists from dozens of countries.’
            ‘UK Inter-faith Co-operation Praised at International Conference
            Cooperation to combat hate crime within two different communities has been praised at an International meeting of States and non-governmental organisations.”
            “The UK case study of co-operation between a Jewish and Muslim organisation has been praised after being presented to an audience on 24 September during the Organisation for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE) meeting.”

            And so on.
            By the way the Muslim Population of Britain grew from 3% to 4.8% of the population from 2001 to 2011. It’s now about 5%, when people (like you?) are asked they think it’s 21%.

          • jillhare

            My old home town up north has 48%.

          • Sunshine Sux

            And it’s only growing, and how do you think countries with larger muslim populations are doing ?

            What you are describing, is indeed that famous ‘tiny minority’, an exception. I on the other hand, am talking about the rule, here it is, I believe it’s from 2008, see how much since then has changed, and let me know what you think, if you dare:

            As long as the Muslim population remains around 1% of any given country they will be regarded as a peace-loving minority and not as a threat to anyone. In fact, they may be featured in articles and films, stereotyped for their colorful uniqueness:

            United States — Muslim 1.0%
            Australia — Muslim 1.5%
            Canada — Muslim 1.9%
            China — Muslim 1%-2%
            Italy — Muslim 1.5%
            Norway — Muslim 1.8%

            At 2% and 3% they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs:

            Denmark — Muslim 2%
            Germany — Muslim 3.7%
            United Kingdom — Muslim 2.7%
            Spain — Muslim 4%
            Thailand — Muslim 4.6%

            From 5% on they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population.

            They will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature it on their shelves — along with threats for failure to comply. (United States ).

            France — Muslim 8%
            Philippines — Muslim 5%
            Sweden — Muslim 5%
            Switzerland — Muslim 4.3%
            The Netherlands — Muslim 5.5%
            Trinidad &Tobago — Muslim 5.8%

            At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islam is not to convert the world but to establish Sharia law over the entire world.

            When Muslims reach 10% of the population, they willincrease lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions ( Paris –car-burnings) . Any non-Muslim action that offends Islam will result in uprisings and threats ( Amsterdam – Mohammed cartoons).

            Guyana — Muslim 10%
            India — Muslim 13.4%
            Israel — Muslim 16%
            Kenya — Muslim 10%
            Russia — Muslim 10-15%

            After reaching 20% expect rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings and church and synagogue burning:

            Ethiopia — Muslim 32.8%

            At 40% you will find widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks and ongoing militia warfare:

            Bosnia — Muslim 40%
            Chad — Muslim 53.1%
            Lebanon — Muslim 59.7%

            From 60% you may expect unfettered persecution of non-believers and other religions, sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels:

            Albania — Muslim 70%
            Malaysia — Muslim 60.4%
            Qatar — Muslim 77.5%
            Sudan — Muslim 70%

            After 80% expect State run ethnic cleansing and genocide:

            Bangladesh — Muslim 83%
            Egypt — Muslim 90%
            Gaza — Muslim 98.7%
            Indonesia — Muslim 86.1%
            Iran — Muslim 98%
            Iraq — Muslim 97%
            Jordan — Muslim 92%
            Morocco — Muslim 98.7%
            Pakistan — Muslim 97%
            Palestine — Muslim 99%
            Syria — Muslim 90%
            Tajikistan — Muslim 90%
            Turkey — Muslim 99.8%
            United Arab Emirates — Muslim 96%

            100% will usher in the peace of ‘Dar-es-Salaam’ — the Islamic House of Peace — there’s supposed to be peace because everybody is a Muslim:

            Afghanistan — Muslim 100%
            Saudi Arabia — Muslim 100%
            Somalia — Muslim 100%
            Yemen — Muslim 99.9%

            So? Seems pretty accurate if you ask me. If I were you, I’d pull the plug on the sleepovers, before a psychotic brainwashed cousin finds out about the peace-loving muslim family, and decides to burn their entire house down, with everyone inside.
            I just don’t trust them. How could I, when they can not even trust their own?

          • Shorne

            Yep, yet again same agenda as Jihadis you also completely ignore the instances I cited about interfaith co-operation. The amount of figures you quote shows the energy that can arise from paranoia. Unless of course you belong to some extremist organisation, hidden comment history can indicate this.
            Also your logic here is somewhat flawed if a country is nearly 100% Muslim the only people being harmed by what you allege would be Muslims.
            By the way Albania was the only country in Europe where there were more Jews at the start of World War 2 than at the end as the Muslim Albanians kept the Jews from harm.

          • Sunshine Sux

            Actually, unlike Muslims, who deliberately spread taqiyya, or LIES, as we call it, what I wrote are FACTS.

            You are clearly the one with the agenda, because you chose to ignore them.

            And WTF does Albania now have to do with anything? Seriously, you just write down anything, at all, in the hope it’ll stick? THAT’S having an agenda.

          • Shorne

            You say you write facts but I suspect you don’t actually read what you write but just cut and paste it from some extremist website. Taqiyya is a mechanism for self defence defined as;
            ” a legal dispensation whereby a believing individual can deny his faith or commit otherwise illegal or blasphemous acts, especially while they are in fear or at risk of significant persecution”
            “Islamic scholars tend to emphasize that taqiyya is only permissible under duress, and that the inflationary use of the term qualifies as “a staple of right-wing Islamophobia”
            That rather seems to have you sussed.
            As further proof you don’t read what you cut and paste you included Albania under your heading;
            “From 60% you may expect unfettered persecution of non-believers and other religions, sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels.”
            That’s why I mentioned it, to show how wrong you can be.
            Here’s another example, you out Morocco under;
            “After 80% expect State run ethnic cleansing and genocide”
            Here’s a quote from an American Jewish website;
            “Nowadays, Morocco has roughly 5,000 Jews, and thousands of Israelis and other Jews of Moroccan descent visit every year…Yet I was struck by the openness of Moroccans to their Jewish brethren — and to the very idea of their existence.
            I could probably find lots of other examples.

          • LittleRedRidingHood

            Whilst the work you do is admirable it is a drop in the ocean of aggressive Islamism. I’m afraid most sensible people not crippled by liberalism and multictural revisionism simply do not believe that everything will turn out alright. It has been pretty consistent in the last 14 centuries there is no reason historical or anecdotal that suggests that will ever change.
            How can it when your spokespeople of organisations such as MCAB enable and proliferate the fundamentalist rhetoric coming out of Saudi, not to mention their dubious ties with sanctioned groups.
            Your point that most UK Muslims are born here illustrates my point. Fundamentaism is on the rise amongst second and now third generation British born Muslims.

            We don’t believe you, we don’t trust you and soon people will not want you.
            The stage is set. How the story ends is largely down to the Muslim community who seem to be “frustrated” whatever our western establishments do. Unfortunately, it is becoming a more regular occurrence that Muslim frustrations are vented with violence.
            One wonders when the non Muslim community will start to vent their frustrations in a similar manner.

          • Shorne

            I am genuinely puzzled by your comment. What on Earth do you mean by ‘work’? You ignore examples of interfaith cooperation because it goes against your version of jihadism and you ignore how small the Muslim population actually is. The most amusing thing however is how people like you demonstrate you delusions of grandeur by the use of ‘We’ implying that somehow you have some power and influence beyond merely commenting in forums like this.

          • LittleRedRidingHood

            I don’t know why you are puzzled. You obviously think this can be solved with interfaith dialogue. The people trying to do this are few and far between and are losing the battle if not the war to prevent a descent into fundamentalist hell. My version of jihadism? Islam is flexing its muscles globally. How can you not see this. Yes the Muslim population is relatively small in the UK, but 5% of the population are producing 13% of the total prison population which tells me something is not quite right here. I have no illusions of grandeur, I’m merely pointing out that a lot of people are getting totally p!ssed off that such a small minority as you put it can cause so much pain and strife. If it weren’t for the fact that the Muslim contingent has doubled in the last two decades you may have a point. But the rate at which that is likely to increase as a result of the “migrant crisis” is rather worrying.

            So maybe try to address the points I made and play the ball rather than the man.

          • Shorne

            Well you haven’t addressed all my points but no surprises there. I think I know a bit about Islamic prisoners because I spent the last 13 years of my career as a Probation Officer working in a prison. The high number of Muslim prisoners arises from the large number of, mainly Black British, prisoners who convert to Islam. The reasons for this are many and sincere conversions are low down the list. Islam can offer the support and sense of belonging that gangs provide on the outside, some are intimidated by radicalised prisoners, some think they will get better food (they don’t in my observation) and it was also my observation that attendance at religious services provided a good opportunity for dealing in contraband. This matter was examined in depth at HMP Whitemoor, here are some quotes from the report;
            ‘There was considerable ignorance and confusion (even among recently converted prisoners) about the Islamic faith.’
            ‘you wouldn’t see them praying or reading the Qur’an any
            time, you wouldn’t even see them going to Friday prayers sometime. But they say “I am Muslim” (Prisoner).’
            ‘Half of these people are not Muslims at all. They’ve got swastikas and racist things down. Tattoos about all the different organisations they’ve been in. They just join which scam is powerful at the time.’
            ‘ a lot of people is converting into Muslims because they feel like in case they’re getting attacked by somebody, or they’ve got a problem with some person, or it’s a gang thing, yeah, so they feel like if they become a Muslim now, that person over there can’t attack me because the brothers will stop it from happening. A bit of a shield, to protect themselves, that’s what it is really
            (Prisoner).’
            In other words the dynamic is completely different from the outside. It was discovered that 52% of the Muslims in Whitemoor had converted in prison.
            It was interesting in my experience how many suddenly decided they weren’t Muslims after all when Ramadan came around.

          • LittleRedRidingHood

            Fair enough I appreciate your detailed response. What of the 1 on 8 foreign born prisoner population. What is the demographic there?
            By the way these are government figures if you were in any doubt.

            This still does not detract from the obvious problems we are importing from the third world and middle east.
            A few interfaith collaborations, wonderful though they are, are not going to make a dent in the reality of what is happening across the whole of Europe. People don’t know much about it because the media refuse to accurately report any of it, but people who care about what is happening are prepared to find out from multiple and diverse sources to get a broad view. It does not make pretty reading.

            It’s not about jihadists necessarily, it’s about the whole political, social and spiritual system that constitutes islam and it’s inability to adjust and integrate with western ways.
            You can lead a horse to water but you cannot make it drink and there seems to be a distinct lack of interest from large sections of the Muslim community, British and foreign born, to integrate into western societies and cultures.
            Failure to acknowledge this clear trend would be willful.
            Why doesn’t the responsibility lie with the people most resistant to this, instead of us acknowledging their faux victim status.

            You may feel that I and others are being irrational about our concerns but to be honest, I have been voicing the same concerns for more than ten years and if anything it is getting worse. This is before Syria, before IS and before the “migrant crisis”
            People aren’t making up The atrocities that are happening across the globe at the hands of Muslims, they are real but largely ignored by the powers that be.
            The ummah have a bee in their bonnet and sense they have the western world in the run and to be honest they do, thanks to ineffective liberal governments and establishment organisations with a common purpose, falling over themselves to quash any suggestion that Islam is the root cause of many of the barbaric scenes across the world. Problem is we know it is.

            The simple fact echoed by many a senior cleric, Islam is Islam. It will not change.

            It is not wrong, discrimainatory or “islamophobic” to raise any of this.

          • Shorne

            Foreign National prisoners peaked at 14% in 2006 then fell back to 13% and has remained at that ever since. Poland, Jamaica and the Irish Republic are the countries with the highest number of foreign nationals in UK prisons. Jamaicans claim so-called conversions to Islam at about the same rate as Black British. Some of the things done in the name of Islam are appalling and compare to the massacres of Muslims in Bosnia and other things done by so-called Christians. You and others who hold the same views are the direct heirs of those who went on about ‘Yellow Peril’ and ‘White Slavers’ in past centuries.

          • LittleRedRidingHood

            Absolute apologist tripe. Very little compares to the atrocities carried out by muslims. Not just presently but throughout history.
            You speak of Bosnia, yet I think you’ll probably find they were somewhat further down the road of enrichment than we currently are and took such extreme and admittedly abhorrent action in an attempt to preserve their nation. Muslims were victims, as a direct result of their aggression after prolonged agitation, provocation and persecution of non muslims. Don’t you dare quote UN findings or reports on the cause as they are nothing more than puppets and useful idiots corrupted by Saudi money.

          • Shorne

            Ah yes classic Right Man Syndrome ‘The “Right Man” must always have his way and is afraid of losing face above all (“How dare you talk to me this way?”): anything that might be an indication of his infallibility or erroneous ways, something that he can never admit. ‘

          • LittleRedRidingHood

            Whilst you display the classic illogical illiberal left syndrome. Playing the man not the ball.

            I used the language you mentioned because I could see the direction this exchange was heading, lo and behold here we are. I preferred to omit findings of corrupt organisations such as the UN featuring in this debate as some sort of projection of truth.
            But tell me. Why is it when anyone start talking about the pretty bloody history of Islam in its 14 centuries the whataboutery begins.

            You were straight in there so predictably with the crusades, you shouldn’t fail to mention more recent holocausts such as the Armenian genocide. Or going back further the wholesale slaughter of Hindus by the three Indian caliphates where it is estimated more than 70 million we’re slaughtered and that is just the start.

            You’re right though. Human beings are definitely capable of being inhuman. History proves that but surely the idea is to learn from history. My concern is the here and now, the supposed civil society where we should not tolerate the Islamic supremacist overtures being played out in blood in the middle east and Africa and to a lesser extent the western world.
            Yet here we are with western Islamic cheerleaders turning a blind eye to abject misery of persecuted minorities across the middle east and africa and not just at the hands of IS or boko haram. Where is NATO flying in to protect the victims of IS (with reference to actions taken in Bosnia)? Nowhere. That’s the answer. We watched while the yazidis fled to a mountain being butchered along the way.

            There is militancy sweeping across the whole Muslim world and you seem to be suggesting that those non muslims in the path of this barbarity should accept their lot for the misdeeds of history.

            I’m certainly not prepared to.

          • Shorne

            Well you have proved my point about Right Man syndrome and also my general point about all human beings. As however you cannot stand the possibility that you might be wrong you simply gloss over non-Muslim atrocities. To quote one of my heroes;
            “Never try to reason the prejudice out of a man. It was not reasoned into him, and cannot be reasoned out.”
            Rev. Sydney Smith 1771 – 1845
            Oh and by the way grandiose as ‘I’m certainly not prepared to’ sounds you are totally powerless and politically impotent, as am I.

          • LittleRedRidingHood

            A good forward defensive there.

            A very interesting interpretation to state that I am wrong and glossing over widely acknowledged historical facts by simply not being drawn into your game of moral equivalence.

            What is more telling is your reluctance to talk about Islam, specifically. Thats what is under discussion.
            Are you prepared to engage or will you persist in furthering the establishments strategy of shutting down debate on the subject?

            Here’s a quote I think is quite pertinent.

            “The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.”

            Edmund Burke

            So yes whilst your last point is true, the only way I can project my views and concerns is by commenting on such forums as this.

          • Shorne

            I don’t have to talk about Islam you are doing that I’m just pointing out your biased view. I have acknowledged that all human beings, including Muslims, are capable of inhuman acts. You simply focus on Muslims because it’s fairly obvious you simply don’t like them.

          • LittleRedRidingHood

            You are commenting on an article relating to the link berween Islam and Islamism and mosques and the veiled threats made to anyone making that link. How is it biased to be talking about the topic at hand? Why would I be discussing anything else?

            The last paragraph of the article.

            Political correctness silences a debate about Islamism, which allows Islamists wolves to prey on Muslim flocks. There is abundant evidence that Islamist hate speech inspires violent crimes.

            Yet it is we who are cowed into silence, not the friends of Hamas.

            It appears you are one of those trying to be politically correct.

          • knowshistory

            “self defense” is muslim for unprovoked aggression, as long as the aggressor is muslim.

          • Shorne

            No it isn’f

          • knowshistory

            people do protect their slaves, don’t they? hard to get any work out of slaves if you let someone kill them.

          • Shorne

            What rubbish, the Jews were protected as a result of the Albanian tradition of hospitality.

          • mohdanga

            ‘Muslims and Jews living in the same North London neighbourhood are making a stand together against hate crime amid concerns of an increased threat to both communities in the aftermath of the Paris attacks.’

            And when was the ‘backlash’ against Muslims in the West after any attack in the last 15 years??!! Never happens! The only backlash is against those that actually raise the issue of Islamic terrorism ie the indigenous population.

            It’s all swell that your daughter has Muslim friends. Wait ten years and get back to us.

            “By the way the Muslim Population of Britain grew from 3% to 4.8% of the population from 2001 to 2011.” So, nothing to worry about then, only a 50% increase in ten years. By 2035 things will be going along swimmingly, I’m sure.

          • knowshistory

            to fools, “hate crime” means any insult to superior religions, even when faked, which most are. you will experience real hate crimes when your “friends”, the people who are scripturally obligated to kill you, achieve control of UK. I am sure you are enjoying cozying up with your enemies and poking your finger in the eye of those evil Europeans that you hate more than you love your freedom, your family, or your life. good luck with sharia. maybe you should go to Syria and live the good live with those wonderful muslims for awhile. nothing wrong with a little practical education.

          • Shorne

            Paranoid ravings from somebody who can’t bear the thought of inter-faith dialogue, rather like JIhadists.

          • hobspawn

             “…not all Muslims are Jihadis…”

            The good people you are talking about are not Muslims, they are apostates. They choose to ignore the clear instructions of the prophet. Good on them for their disobedience, but don’t be fooled into thinking that they can ever define Islam. Either that, of taqiyya.

          • mike

            That is a good story it would be a great thing if this what was happening in the majority of Islamic countries obviously decent people are in all religions but if it all goes off we will not know friend from foe as usual the good people will pay the price.The immam would be at risk from those who want the violence to continue a brave man no doubt.

          • knowshistory

            the only thing more pathetic than a dhimmi is a jewish dhimmi. the holy Islamic scriptures are rife with passages urging the chosen people (muslims, not jews) to kill jews. yet you think you can buddy up with them. they are using you as a useful idiot to help them achieve control. after that, you are gas chamber fodder. good luck with your new friends.

          • Shorne

            I’m not Jewish and the gas chambers were not operated by Muslims.

        • Malcolm Stevas

          “A few bad apples…” Nice sense of irony. The terrorism and extreme zealotry are bad enough, but it’s your culture (and everything that goes with it) on a large scale, in our country, that we don’t like. Odd that you affect not to get this.

        • jeremy Morfey

          I agree with you about makeup, plastic surgery, high fashion and consumerism, and much prefer women who are gentle, wholesome, kind and natural. Muslim women are forbidden me, but there are those outside Islam who are like this.

          Anyone who has seen an Arabian sandstorm will understand that the Niqab is the most sensible thing to wear there. In Arabia therefore, the niqab is seen as an indication of respect, for the sand, and for sex-hungry manhood who cannot afford to pay for the wedding dresses.

          What is right in Arabia though is not always right everywhere else. The Prophet (pbuh) and the Qu’ran and the hadiths did not appreciate how far their religion would spread, otherwise they would have come up with other rules more fitting to local conditions.

          In England, for centuries, robbers would cover their faces with masks or with hoods, so that they could not be recognised. If you went bare-faced, you were telling the world “I have nothing to hide from you”, and to be bare-faced in England is to be as respectful as it is to be covered in Arabia.

          By insisting on wearing the Niqab in England, can you blame others for thinking you are a robber, or hiding something bad? In the past, before the Wahhabis perverted the religion, most English people would think – ah a religious person – and leave you alone. But since the Wahhabis destroyed the holy cities of Mecca and Medina, removing all traces of the Prophet’s presence, and made them evil, consumerist and corrupt, the hearts of Muslims have gone bad in the eyes of the world, so now English people think “robber” rather than “religious person”. Why is it that most Islamic State cut-throats decide to cover their faces? Soon every Muslim with a covered face will be a suspect. I find it quite dreadful that these people make martyrs out of humanitarian aid workers, and then claim the martyrdom for themselves by simply shouting out “Allah Akhbar!” They take Allah’s name in vain in the most dreadful way, and cease to have any association with anything that is holy or just. if this is Islam, then Islam is one great blasphemy.

          There is much to do to correct this image, and the bad behaviour of millions of economic migrants from Islamic countries flooding Europe are not helping.

          • mike

            I would like to see an Islamic Scholar explain and refute the 100 plus verses like kill the infidel wherever you find him or slay or behead those who insult the prophet ect as in my opinion anyone who believes such commandments cannot be tolerated in any free country , if i kicked my toe and yelled FN Christ and my neighbor was a christian i doubt id be at risk of being killed but if my neighbor was a Muslim and i said anything about Allah i might well be dead.

        • mohdanga

          “The crusaders (Christians) murdered massive amounts of people…”. In response to Muslim aggression, pillage and rape in the Christian countries of the Middle East. You’re fairly dense for a supposed ‘graduate student’…or just another blinkered Muslim who can’t admit that their religion is the cause of most of the grief in the world.

          “…colonialists utilized Christianity as a means to enslave Africans…”…aided and abetted by African blacks and Arab (Muslim) slave traders who were in the slaving business centuries before whitey ever entered Africa, and are still at it today. Britain stopped the slave trade in the late 1700s/early 1800s, long before they ‘colonized’ Africa. Which in itself is a funny description being that the number of whites in Africa is infinitesimally small compared to the blacks. Isn’t colonization supposed to be the other way around? Kind of like the way the UK is being overrun by Muslims and non-whites today? And Britain hasn’t had any ‘colonies’ in Africa for about 60 years.

          “…wanted to “civilize” women in Arab lands by removing their clothes, as well as “civilize” women in Africa by putting clothes on them”. So all African women walked around nude prior to English settlers arriving on the scene? And the English made Arab women take their clothes off? That’s a new one.

          “Women who wear the Niqab and the Hijab are women who do not buy into the industry of makeup, of plastic surgery, of consumerism for public gaze.” Hilarious. Must be why Muslim women, when faced with showing their faces at trial, for a driver’s licence, at airport security, always say their religion demands they not do so. So what is, Ms Einstein?

  • david burge

    Why are we so afraid to speak the truth. after reading up on Islam Their stated aim is to rule the world and they will do it by any means And they do not recognize our Laws.may i suggest reading up on the Battle of Vienna 1683 9/11

  • Fulgentian

    “Islam is the Religion of Peace
    There is no such thing as Islamic terrorism
    Now calmy kneel and take the bullet through your head, or the bomb through your body like a good kafir. You deserve death, for Allah hates you.”
    – It would be more honest if Western lefty news outlets just came all out and issued this statement.

  • Dominic Stockford

    1. He (Farhad Jabar) is a muslim.
    2. He praised Allah after committing the murder.
    3. He murdered someone because they weren’t muslim.
    4. He murdered them ‘in the name of Allah’

    Therefore:

    He cannot possibly be a terrorist, let alone an Islamic Terrorist. He’s probably a smoker of cannabis, that’ll be why he did it.

    Prayer for Australia is needed before things become as bad there as they are here in the UK.

    • mohdanga

      According to the police and politicians, it was a ‘political attack’. Too bad he didn’t attack one of them, then maybe they would think differently.

      • mike

        Spot on unless the politicians and their families are in extreme danger from Islamic terrorists the public and police and ADF will be at risk deport terrorists and their families.

  • Gilbert White

    From the government’s viewpoint what is the alternative? Suppose when a really big event happens the people will be pre-
    conditioned?

  • Harryagain

    MESSAGE FROM GERMANY

    A Female Physician in Munich, Germany sends a message to the world . . .
    Yesterday, at the hospital we had a meeting about how the situation here and at the other Munich hospitals is unsustainable. Clinics cannot handle emergencies, so they are starting to send everything to the hospitals.

    Many Muslims are refusing treatment by female staff and, we, women, are refusing to go among those animals, especially from Africa. Relations between the staff and migrants are going from bad to worse. Since last weekend, migrants going to the hospitals must be accompanied by police with K-9 units.

    Many migrants have AIDS, syphilis, open TB and many exotic diseases that we, in Europe, do not know how to treat them. If they receive a prescription in the pharmacy, they learn they have to pay cash. This leads to unbelievable outbursts, especially when it is about drugs for the children. They abandon the children with pharmacy staff with the words: “So, cure them here yourselves!” So the police are not just guarding the clinics and hospitals, but also large pharmacies.

    Truly we said openly: Where are all those who had welcomed in front of TV cameras, with signs at train stations?! Yes, for now, the border has been closed, but a million of them are already here and we will definitely not be able to get rid of them.

    Until now, the number of unemployed in Germany was 2.2 million. Now it will be at least 3.5 million. Most of these people are completely unemployable. A bare minimum of them have any education. What is more, their women usually do not work at all. I estimate that one in ten is pregnant. Hundreds of thousands of them have brought along infants and little kids under six, many emaciated and neglected. If this continues and German re-opens its borders, I’m going home to the Czech Republic. Nobody can keep me here in this situation, not even double the salary than at home. I went to Germany, not to Africa or the Middle East.

    Even the professor who heads our department told us how sad it makes him to see the cleaning woman, who for 800 Euros cleans every day for years, and then meets young men in the hallways who just wait with their hand outstretched, want everything for free, and when they don’t get it they throw a fit.

    I really don’t need this! But I’m afraid that if I return, that at some point it will be the same in the Czech Republic. If the Germans, with their nature cannot handle this, there in Czechia it would be total chaos. Nobody who has not come in contact with them has no idea what kind of animals they are, especially the ones from Africa, and how Muslims act superior to our staff, regarding their religious accommodation.

    For now, the local hospital staff has not come down with the diseases they brought here, but, with so many hundreds of patients every day – this is just a question of time.

    In a hospital near the Rhine, migrants attacked the staff with knives after they had handed over an 8-month-old on the brink of death, which they had dragged across half of Europe for three months. The child died in two days, despite having received top care at one of the best pediatric clinics in Germany. The physician had to undergo surgery and two nurses are laid up in the ICU. Nobody has been punished.

    The local press is forbidden to write about it, so we know about it through email. What would have happened to a German if he had stabbed a doctor and nurses with a knife? Or if he had flung his own syphilis-infected urine into a nurse’s face and so threatened her with infection? At a minimum he’d go straight to jail and later to court. With these people – so far, nothing has happened.

    And so I ask, where are all those greeters and receivers from the train stations? Sitting pretty at home, enjoying their non-profits and looking forward to more trains and their next batch of cash from acting like greeters at the stations. If it were up to me I would round up all these greeters and bring them here first to our hospital’s emergency ward, as attendants. Then, into one building with the migrants so they can look after them there themselves, without armed police, without police dogs who today are in every hospital here in Bavaria, and without medical help.

    Is this situation coming to England?

    • Sunshine Sux

      It’s already here.

    • Wildflowers
      • sarah

        Jesus Christ. I read the transcript of the letter in a comment above – and assumed there was a good chance it was fake. I watched that video and I’m stunned. Not surprised to be brutally honest, but stunned that this shit is happening – and being covered up – and that the media are NOT REPORTING IT.

    • Sue Smith

      I was in Munich in April this year and it was a hell-hole and ghetto. Now it would be a “no go” zone. I complained to the local tourism authority about it and a women there said, “please put it in writing; we are fed up and the police will do nothing”.

      As Ninotchka said in the film of the same name (1939)..”won’t be long now comrades”.

      • PeteTongue

        Of course, Munich has turned into a hell hole and ghetto. What else?

      • Penny

        Sue – where in particular? I lived in Munich so am familiar with the city. I was there in 2013 when there was a demonstration against a mega mosque (the petition was, I believe, mostly dismissed despite the number of signatures) I was also there over Xmas 2014 and all seemed as it always had. There was the odd beggar whose dress suggested he or she was not German, but other than that it was OK. Your comment now has me both curious and alarmed as we’re in the “musing” stage of planning another visit.

    • Jenki

      Harryagain
      I suspect that it is just a matter of time before we are in the same situation. At least we have the channel as a bit of a barrier and we are not party to the Shegen agreement. But I wonder how long it might be before Germany starts doling out passports to the recent immigrants in an effort to move some of them along to Britain.

  • Rav

    “…..lurking in the shadows of a suburban mosque or prayer hall there might be people who, instead of preaching peace, love and understanding, are mixing religious messages with incitement to hatred, murder, anti-Semitism, anti-Western propaganda and world domination…..”

    Mixing messages or perhaps accurately teaching the message in the Quran ???

    • omgamuslim

      Anti-zionism perhaps (because zionism is a racist doctrine), but nothing else as mentioned by you.

  • Solage 1386

    There is nothing more tedious in this world than an Australian Leftist. Group-Think is rife amongst them, and they are entirely unable to deal with dissent. Then again, the Australians always have been 30 years’ behind the rest of the world, haven’t they?

    • Gilbert White

      The OZ radio programmes full of these whinger leftists and half castes are diabolical and gross.

    • mike

      I was born in Australia and you are spot on it seems that we are the most naive people in the world especially the politicians in the belief that nothing can happen to us just because it happens everywhere else in the world it cant happen here as though we have a special force field protecting us from harm.We continue to adopt failed policies from overseas thinking it will work here.We only have a problem with people from one religion involved in terrorism.Mental illness is used as a scapegoat but in reality Islam sends some individuals insane.

      • knowshistory

        sorry, mate. your loons are no loonier than those of Europe and north America.

    • E.I.Cronin

      Yep too right Solage. We have always been a few decades behind. It used to be a source of huge embarrassment – now our isolation may just be a saving grace!

  • Sunshine Sux

    Islam is the religion of peace, and you will be raped, tortured and finally beheaded, if you say otherwise.

    • Graeme S

      Nailed IT

    • LadyMoonlight

      Islam is the Religion of Pieces….a head here, a hand over there etc.

  • Malcolm Stevas

    You couldn’t make it up. It’s like something out of Private Eye: what would the great Barry Mackenzie have thought? We always had this image of Oz being filled with ruggedly independent no-nonsense types who wouldn’t have stood for this PC garbage in a million years.

  • Graeme S

    The telegraph is carrying a story on the front page stating the PM is undertaking a review of whether Islamic radicals have taken over every facet of British life … Mr. Cameron they need not be radical just Muslim, why did the election of police commissioners stop, because every area was about to use Islamic bloc vote. Every LEA, most of the NHS all of the BEEB have huge disproportion ethnic minority make up … this is mainly Islamic. No need for the PM to review it is here !! now !! today

    • Malcolm Stevas

      That’s the piece that reads, “David Cameron has launched a major review into whether Islamist extremists have infiltrated the NHS, the civil service, local authorities and the country’s education system.”? My immediate thought was that his “review” shouldn’t take long, since although not all Muslims are terrorists, a high proportion of them (as shown by polls, consistently) are at best equivocal about terror, alarmingly keen on Sharia, and of course we have an awful lot of Muslims. And they are present in quantity in those named areas of public life.

      • Richard

        In South Africa, Afrikaners of nationalist persuasion gained control of the country by infiltrating the civil service. Once they had done this, it was a hop, skip and a jump to getting the rest.

      • Tom M

        Which brings to mind a discussion my brother had with the consultant about the last days of our mother’s life. The consultant asked the Muslim intern to go do something elsewhere to get him out of the room.
        When he left the consultant explained that questions of resuscitation and what to do at life’s end aren’t subjects that can be discussed rationally with them.
        The question I would like answered is what is the Muslim intern going to discuss about other people’s loved ones end of life options when he becomes a consultant?

  • quotes

    That Grand Mufti sounds hilarious

    “The solution to radicalisation, according to Mohamed, is for the Muslim community to build more traditional Islamic centres; his long-term vision, along with the ANIC, was to facilitate the building of mosques large enough to accommodate gyms, lecture halls and facilities for women and children.”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibrahim_Abu_Mohamed

    • cartimandua

      And then as we see all over the world another version of Islam will blow up the Mosques.

      • Andrew

        Quite prescient: they do love to squabble; with every other religion, but particularly with themselves. It will not save Europe though.

    • Deiscirt

      You may have noticed that the only solution to Islamic-related problems that comes from the Islamic community is more Islam. The answer is always more Islam. That this has been tried for centuries and has resulted in much of the Islamic world resembling, if not actual hell on earth, miserable places filled with fear, ignorance, poverty and violence that most muslims are desperate to leave.

      • Maureen Fisher

        Desperate to leave and then reconstruct an identical “paradise” in Western countries. Baffling.

    • E.I.Cronin

      yes, a lot of us noted that comment just after the terrorist riots in Sydney CBD. very cunning tactic.

  • Liberanos

    It’s very difficult to be more radical than simply being a muslim. One has joined a club, the sacred rules of which, if properly followed, would end in your imprisonment in any civilised society. Yet, along with all the misogyny, homophobia. anti-Semitism and domestic violence, nothing is seen to be amiss and this iniquitous superstition is allowed to flourish. It’s very odd.

    • Richard

      It is very odd indeed. The real reason is that Islam is mainly a religion of people who are other-than-white. As a student in the 1980s, when the numbers of indigenous people at universities was proportionately much higher, the idea of “safe spaces” exempting their occupants from any sort of scrutiny would have been seen as absurd. Academic space meant examining your thoughts and reasoning, and debating them. It still would, if the people demanding these “safe spaces” were white, or indigenous people. However, they aren’t, they are invariably (from what I read), Muslims and others migrants of dusky hue. In other words, it is as if a sign saying “Off Limits” exists because of this greater quantity of melanin. It means you can advocate anything at all, and it is fine.

      European civilisation is on the wane, and these are the usurpers. The problem, Brutus, lies not in the Muslims but in ourselves.

  • Isam is a killing cult. It is powered by a circular fear created by Islamic theology, the mosques and the mullahs. (Which I call the “mullah/mosque infrastructure”).

    You can read my thesis on this at: http://islamsfatalflaw.blogspot.com/

    Here is the beginning.

    Would you wear a T-shirt with a Mohammad cartoon printed on it?

    You might in Montana. Don’t try it in Mecca.

    Why?

    Because, Islam trains a small number of its most devout believers it’s OK to kill. And Islamic killers have been trained to kill anyone who insults Allah and/or Mohammad.

    In Montana you’d have a good chance none of these Islamic killers would see you.

    In Mecca you wouldn’t last five minutes. One of Islam’s killers would come from out of nowhere and kill you. It is that simple.

    You don’t believe me? Ask any Muslim!

    • William Matthews

      I believe you. They should encourage everyone to read the Koran. I read it, twice. Once you’re past the incomprehensible bits and the endless poorly plagiarized bits from other religions, and the endless repetition, 30+ times it tells you a cock-eyed version of the story of Moses. You’ll notice it doesn’t like anyone except for male Muslims. If you are not a male Muslim, it is quite a terrifying book. In essence it’s basically a cook book for all the techniques to get rid non Muslims. Behead them, tax them, kill them, enslave them, lie to them, divvying up the war booty, disrespect them and so on. Until of cause they’re Muslim. Or dead.

      • Fulgentian

        I have no idea how anyone can think it comes from God. It is quite obviously the collected ramblings of someone with some very serious complexes. Right from the word go Allah starts having a go at Muhammed’s enemies and all those horrible people who laughed at the poor epileptic for believing Gabriel had appeared to him in a vision while hiding in a cave. You’d have thought God would have more important information to give mankind.
        Compare the start of the Bible- whatever you believe, it is an elegant description of a very important, objective, eternal truth, namely that God created the world. Rather than “Hey mo, see them ‘orrible Jews what’s laughing at you, I’ll get ’em don’t you worry!”
        The tragic thing is Allah did get his horrible way with those who laugh at Mohammed, then and now.

        • William Matthews

          Indeed. It reads like “My first religion”. Compare it to other sacred texts from the region: Atra Hasis, Enuma Elish, Epic Gilgamesh, Ianna’s Descent and on, it’s an absolute insult. Take the various ‘flood’ stories from the region, they are little short of brilliant for many many reasons. The Koran however, a perfect copy of a book that sits at the right hand of god on an emerald table, so it’s claims, is very dismal in comparison. The Mesopotamian classics communicate their symbolism, science, artistic merit and brilliance even having been translated from Cuniform to English. The Koran however is unintelligible to even Arabic speakers. The work of god? Pfft. No wonder ISIS destroy ancient sites.

          • Ivan Ewan

            And it’s the only “holy book” to be arranged in the most illogical way conceivable: longest to shortest chapter.

            The only way you’d arrange it like that is if you were a) lazy or b) didn’t want too many people to know too much about it all at once.

          • William Matthews

            I think it’s willfully deceptive. “Taqiyya” or permitted lying for the good of Islam. When Mohammed was looking for converts he was sweetness and light, later when he’s beheading, and raising armies and sex-slaves he a lot less fun. If the Koran was chronological it would show this. Islam has this term abrogation, which means when their is a contradiction in the Koran, the new nasty text takes precedence of the older nicer one. ISIS et al, are probably interpreting the Koran correctly.

          • Ivan Ewan

            Well, it wasn’t Mo who rearranged them. In fact, the Koran hadn’t even been compiled at the time. Abu Bakr ordered the compilation of the Koran because it had mostly been carried in memory by people he was continually sending to death in battle. ibn-Uthman was the one who gathered all the variations of the Koran, burned all but one version, and organised that version by chapter-length. It’s probably safer to say that Uthman was illiterate rather than cunning.

  • Arthur Ascii

    The Saudis have not given refuge to a single refugee from Syria (despite the fact that they have the infrastructure to accommodate a million or two people during the Hajj), but they have offered to finance the construction of 200 mosques in Germany.

    • Maureen Fisher

      They’re the”wrong kind of Muslim” that’s why.

      • sarah

        Are they, though? I thought Saudi Arabia – and Syria were predominantly Sunni.

  • George

    It’s not just Australia.

    Every western country with a Muslim population is scared stiff of offending the religion of peace. We see the cowardice every day from our political class and from others in authority.

    The hugely vocal response from Europe’s politicians to the Islamist-inspired slaughter at the Charlie Hebdo offices was a massive exercise in luvvie culture and cowardice—and the Muslims knew it. They knew they had Cameron and Merkel and Holland on the run.

    There was only ever one response that would have shown a commitment to western values and a determination to stand up to the Islamists, and that was for our politicians to have carried images of the Mohamed cartoons. But never in a million years would they have done it, and by not doing it the Islamists knew that violence works.

    It is the threat of Muslim violence that explains the dishonesty and cowardice found in western societies in speaking about Muslim-related issues.

  • Davedeparis

    ‘He probably had mental health issues’ meaning what? That only well adjusted, socially integrated, happy murderous terrorists get to be taken seriously as such? Just how high is this mental health bar to true terrorist status? A futile question I know as it can always be raised to suit ideological requirements. We have to accept that these creeps do not pass the McNaughton test. In other words, although unhappy, they are not under the delusion that are terrorists but are in fact the real thing.

    • sarah

      Its also to demonize anyone who really does have ‘mental health issues’. Having a mental illness does not make you grab a gun and slaughter an innocent in the name of a religion and its culture. Mental illness does not make you hate and discriminate against certain races and religions. We need to stop blaming mental illness. That kid – knew what he was doing. He made his choices based on the information he had access to and that he chose to believe in. And an innocent man died a terrible death as a result. There. Was. No. Mental. Illness here.

      • Davedeparis

        I agree. Radical leftists are moral relativists so after denying its very existence they cannot understand evil and thus have to distort reality to reinvent blood soaked monsters as victims with bs about them being mentally ill. Most mentally ill people are in fact not violent so it is actually a slander against them to boot.

  • omgamuslim

    “And ABC online stuck bravely to the broadcaster’s narrative that night despite the evidence of our own eyes.”
    Hmmm. What is the evidence of your own eyes? That the person is not Jewish or discernibly European looking? May be it was the idea that he was ‘bellowing’ out something in praise of the lord!
    What are we to make of it when US people shoot at innocent people thrashing about in the water from Helicopter gunships to shouts of “God bless America”?

    • Deiscirt

      The evidence of our own eyes? Let’s see.
      He shouted Allah Uh Akbar
      He dressed in ostentatiously religious clothes
      He was becoming increasingly obsessed with his religion and its grotesque doctrines of victimhood, supremacy, jihad and martyrdom.
      He was hanging around with other creeps with a boner for Jihad
      In choosing a Police employee, he specifically singled out a representative of our democratic State.

      Did I miss anything?

      • omgamuslim

        Have you some evidence that Silk-Miller killers ever visited a mosque?

        Doctrines of victimhood, supremacy, jihad and martyrdom? Where do you get these ideas from? You are either delirious or you read too much zionistory.

        • Deiscirt

          No. Should I? Did I accidentally type “all cop killers are muslims” without noticing it? Let me check…. Nope. So, what are you on about?

          I see you’re a Jew Hater to boot. How unsurprising.

          Victimhood: Constant complaints from the Muslim community about being singled out (total silence from other religious groups)
          Supremacy: Islam teaches non-Muslims are the “foulest” of creatures and should be either exterminated or subjugated, however long that takes
          Jihad: An obligation for able-bodied Muslim males
          Martyrdom: Glorified ad nauseum in Islamic “scriptures”

          • omgamuslim

            You are very inventive.
            Jew hater? How do you make that out? Otherwise what are you on about.

          • Ilya

            The article and Deiscirt’s reply had nothing to do with Jews. Yet that’s whom you immediately blame.

            Also, what incident were you referring to here:
            “What are we to make of it when US people shoot at innocent people
            thrashing about in the water from Helicopter gunships to shouts of “God
            bless America”?”

          • omgamuslim

            Blame Jews? What do you base that on?
            Iraq. Snowden. But is that going to make any difference to you?

          • Deiscirt

            Deflection. Non sequitur. Straw Man. Whataboutery. Another person in complete denial about the misery, aggression, ignorance and violence Islam engenders everywhere (and there are no exceptions to this) it gathers in sufficient numbers.

          • omgamuslim

            You are just making baseless hackneyed allegations with nothing to back them up with. Usual Bigot’s modus operandi. Is that why you did not even answer the question?

          • Deiscirt

            The first thing an honest observer would notice is that every other religion on earth seems to be able to come live in Australia without the violence, hatred and bigotry that has come to be associated with every significant Muslim minority in the western world. Where are the Buddhists screaming Buddha Uh Akbar when sawing the head off some poor unfortunate? Where are the Hindu demands for the removal of beef the fast food chains? Where are the Sikh ghettos that preach separation from and contempt for non-Sikhs? Where are the Atheists going on babyish violent rampages about cartoons?

            Have you even noticed this? Ever paused for even a moment to wonder why it is so? Of course not. Given Islam’s revealed perfection, the answer can only lie outside. Dogma has rendered Muslims incapable of self-reflection. It’s always someone else’s fault. And so, like clockwork, you’re you’re straight out of the blocks with your Jewish conspiracies and limp attempt to compare western armies with the actions of a murdering loser in Parramatta. And when someone calls you out you respond with accusations of bigotry.

          • omgamuslim

            I suppose “God bless America” sounds better to you! You need to revise your ideas. When Christians arrived in Australia there was much violence. When the Irish arrived there was much violence – towards them and by them. Thus we have the Ned Kelly saga. Violence towards the aborigines though much abated is not yet non-existent. Racism is an ever present fact of life for many and Indians seem often to be demonstrating against Australian racism. The boy of interest in the present essay is thought to have been a victim of racially charged bullying at school. You seem to have lost a sense of proportion. Are there no killings by people other than Muslims in Oz? How many killings have there been by Muslims? Why can killings by Muslims not go unremarked and without raising ripples amongst the frequenters of right wing mag fora? This particular boy, I suspect, is either from Iraq or some place nearby. (It may even be that he is a Palestinian). How many other places have been invaded by the Australian army in cahoots with the soldiers of freedom from elsewhere telling the natives how to live?
            It is getting to be tiresome. The only people incapable of self-reflection seem to me to be those who constantly attempt to preach civilization to Muslims.

          • E.I.Cronin

            Err… you don’t know much Australian history do you.

            1) It was Anglo Australia that voted an overwhelming yes in the 1967 Referendum. It was the representatives of Anglo Australia that passed the 76 Land Rights Act and it was generations of primarily Anglo Australians who devoted their careers, life, tax, and charity to ending racism, fighting poverty and repairing the damage. Even prominent politicians like Calwell who endorsed the White Australia policy and warned about the dangers of a multi-racial society spoke sympathetically about the plight of indigenous people and how we owe them a debt. Also inter-tribal violence in Indigenous Australia was horrific. Tribal law can be brutal for women and children, a fact acknowledged by Aboriginal men and their Northern Territory ‘Sorry’ conference in 2008. Tribal law and it’s vestigial effects are still felt in Aboriginal communities as Elders will testify. Hatred and the violence that results are basic human passions and no human society or civilisation is free of it. We made every effort to minimise it and repair it. The difference is violence, hatred and contempt for non-muslims is given an explicit scriptural mandate in your faith. Do you have the honesty and integrity to self-reflect on these issues?

            2) You don’t know what racism actually means. Racism is correctly defined as the prejudice arising from the belief there is an inherent superior quality in one or several races or an innate inferiority in others. I don’t know anyone who subscribes to that absurd and damaging belief. Advocates of the bogus Anti-Racism movement deliberately conflate racism with xenophobia in order to supress debate and to smear critics. Also condemning anyone for xenophobia because they object to a cultural diversity they never wanted or were consulted about is ridiculous. The unfortunate attacks against Indians in Queensland and elsewhere must be condemned – violence and abuse are never acceptable. But they do point to the destructive results of imposing indiscriminate immigration on communities who are happier, more stable and peaceful as they are.

          • omgamuslim

            Your post is a bit of a curates egg. Good in parts. Grievously bad in others as in you ref to scriptural ref to unjustified violence. You need only contrast the history of Jews amongst Muslims to the history of Jews amongst Europeans (or Christians) to realise how pitifully inadequate your knowledge of this matter is.

          • E.I.Cronin

            Thanks for the good curate’s egg. But I’m not the one you need to correct about what constitutes unjustified or justified violence in the Quran or Hadith (leaving aside the issues of scriptural hatred) – it’s the Islamists you need to convince. Al Anzhar University described IS as terrorists but admitted they could not be condemned as heretics. The fundamentalists in Aceh burning Churches must have a pitifully inadequate knowledge of these matters too. I bear you no personal animosity, but this is Islam’s crisis – it should not have been made ours.

          • Deiscirt

            As I claimed you would, you have no explanation, no thought as to why it is only Muslim minority communities in the west that are a significant source of complaint, dysfunction and violence. The reason why is staring you in the face, if you would only look.

          • Deiscirt

            Bigotry is an especially amusing accusation for someone whose Disqus history is dripping with Jewish conspiracy theories. I just had a peek. You can’t go 5 posts without invoking Jews. On this page, you made it to post 2. Just another wheezing conspiracy bore.

          • William_Brown

            Well spotted – though not worth feeding.

          • omgamuslim

            I am afraid you are mistaken. I rarely mention Jews and when I do, I do so in context. You might be confusing the word with my use of the word zionist, examples of which, I admit, you will readily find in my posts, but never, I like to think, used inaptly. Now, if you do not think zionism is a conspiracy, then you do not know what a conspiracy is. And if you cannot distinguish between a Jew and a zionist, then that would be a result of the zionist conspiracy to subvert the language in order to erase the distinction.

          • knowshistory

            Zionist is a leftie approved term for jew.

          • Jim Fox

            Go join ISIS. The Russians are giving them a good pasting…

          • omgamuslim

            A little petulant, aren’t you?

          • Jim Fox

            Petulant? ISLAM makes me vomit with rage!

          • sarah

            The term “Zionism” was coined in 1890 by Nathan
            Birnbaum. Its general definition means the national movement for the
            return of the Jewish people to their homeland and the resumption of
            Jewish sovereignty in the Land of Israel.

            Just pulled that straight off a quick Google search. I also checked your Discus records – and you rant and rave regularly about Zionists – Zionism, Zion – and of course, your predictable hatred of all things Jewish.

            Humour me – what is so wrong and so bad at the idea of a national movement for the return of the Jewish people to their homeland – and the resumption of Jewish sovereignty in Israel? Why is that so infuriating to you and your ilk? Why are the Jewish people so hated by Muslims for just wanting to return home?

            The Muslims have no more claim to Israel as a religious location than the Jewish do, frankly. As someone who is actively non-religious, I think the whole idea is batshit insane. And lets face it, the creation of the state of Israel? Was in response to chronic horrifying anti-semitism and the Holocaust. Something you lot participate in and celebrate…..

            Let me ask you this. If there IS in fact, a God up there; Whether he is ‘Allah’ or the Abrahamic ‘God’ or one of the countless others that have been worshipped over human history (think about that for a second – given how ‘new’ Islam and Christianity really are, as religions) – what do you think he or she is going to want more? Are we not created within his image? Are we not his creations? Would he not want to see us being the best possible human beings that we can be? – Somehow, the idea of hating, hurting and slaughtering others – all in the name of a ideology that no ‘God’ has ever had a hand in – would not make anyone very popular when it came time to face ‘God’, would it now? Forget the land of Milk and Honey and your seven layers of Paradise and all the wondrous things your religion promises. Think about it – if he is real – YOU have to face HIM when YOU die and EXPLAIN YOURSELF as to WHY you chose to hate, discriminate against, belittle, hurt and support the assault and slaughter of an ENTIRE RACE of HIS CREATIONS based on an ideology that another human being dreamt up – a very long time ago. What are YOU going to do then? Do YOU really think YOU are going to get a medal and all the rewards you can handle?? I don’t think so.

          • Andrew

            Caught in the web of your own bigotry and ignorance, you cannot even defend your flatulent protests. Reading your “thoughts” was as sad and laughable as watching an episode of global dawah movement.

          • Jim Fox

            Ah yes- the reply of the ignoramus. “bigot”, “racist”… you forgot “Islamophobe”

          • Ilya

            What about Snowden? You’re not on a Hizb ut Tahrir forum. I really have no idea as to what you’re getting at.

          • omgamuslim

            Perhaps you would like to answer the question.
            Not snowden . I meant to say Manning/Wikileaks.

          • Ilya

            I base my observation that you knee jerk to blaming Jews on your claim that Deiscirt’s opinions are a result of him reading Jews. You’ve got serious problems if that’s your first reaction to encountering an opinion you dislike.
            Now, would you like to finally tell us what incident you were referring to here:
            “What are we to make of it when US people shoot at innocent people
            thrashing about in the water from Helicopter gunships to shouts of “God
            bless America”?” Please cite your sources.

          • Gordon Fraser

            He meant to say: ‘… whilst blasting out ‘Ride of the Valkyries’ from a loud hailer …’

          • knowshistory

            that was a movie made in leftist hollywood

          • Gordon Fraser

            I know.

          • cartimandua

            Iraqis murdered other Iraqis. Its what Muslims do.

          • omgamuslim

            The Irish murdered the Irish/Brits and vice versa. Ukrainians are murdering Ukrainians even as we speak.That’s what Christians/atheists do. You know that of course. Examples abound from the past to the present. But a childish urge to score cheap points is difficult to resist.

          • Jim Fox

            Never heard of Moral Equivalence? It is a logical fallacy, as is your entire “argument”
            WANKER.

          • omgamuslim

            Ah yes. That old moral equivalence smokescreen – the refuge of the knave.

          • sarah

            You see – the problem with Muslims – is that you get your religion all mixed up with the culture that your religion spawned. Secularism is just not conceivable. So when you talk about Irish/Brits, Ukrainian/Ukrainian – and any other example in the world that is not directly or indirectly related to Islam – you seem to feel the insecure need to bundle all of us as either ‘Christian’ or ‘Atheist’. But the rest of us? – Regardless of what our beliefs are, around the world – its not a black and white ‘I am a Muslim, therefore I am Islamic, therefore I live within Islam’. You spend your whole lives all wrapped up in a religion – and an extremely restrictive culture that it created – where you espouse hatred and division and violence against anyone who is not a Muslim. I have a copy of the Quran, I’ve read it repeatedly. It horrifies me. The Bible – isn’t much better – but the Quran stands in a vicious league of its own. As a Muslim – and as a member of ‘Islam’ as a society, you are taught to obey, to worship several times a day every day for life,, you are not taught to question, not taught to discover. You are commanded to listen and toe the line – and the line being put in front of you – is horrifying.

          • knowshistory

            I don’t know what that fool was talking about, but shooting at invaders is exactly the function that military forces are for, and exactly what they are used for in every country except the islamosuicidal sissystans of the west.

          • omgamuslim

            Martyrdom is glorified by all. You just call them heroes.

          • cartimandua

            Our heroes are not those who kill innocent people. They usually are killed protecting life.

          • omgamuslim

            It is a separate discussion which I am willing to engage in. But I hope you are right.

        • Ilya

          Note how this person immediately leaps to asserting that this is somehow the Jews’ fault.

          • sarah

            I haven’t met a Muslim yet, regardless of how moderate they claim to be – who has had a single nice thing to say about the Jews. Indeed, rather than just keeping their filthy hatred to themselves, even the ‘moderate’ ones are insanely quick to start sprouting ignorance and hatred and stupidity.

        • Jim Fox

          WANKER. AGAIN.

        • Jim Fox

          From the same source you can get it- IF you care to look—

          Ye are the best of peoples, evolved for mankind, enjoining what is right, forbidding what is wrong, and believing in Allah. If only the People of the Book[Christians and Jews] had faith, it were best for them: among them are some who have faith, but most of them are perverted transgressors. (3:110)

          Those who disbelieve from among the People of the Book and among the Polytheists, will be in Hell-Fire, to dwell therein (for aye). They are the worst of creatures. (98:6)

          Surely the vilest of animals in Allah’s sight are those who disbelieve, then they would not believe. (8:55)

          NO supremacy or hatred there, OBVIOUSLY. As for jihad and martyrdom, the post would be too long. Koran is nothing but a tome of racism, hate and supremacy that eclipses Hitler’s Mein Kampf [which, by the way is most popular is Islamic societies.

          • omgamuslim

            The British history over last 500 yrs is built on the idea that all others are savages. Europeans are similarly deluded. The Jews are the chosen people. And the Americans are the exceptional nation. Transatlantic slave trade has been built on the Papal declaration of European superiority over others.

            The extinction of race consciousness as between Muslims is one of the outstanding achievements of Islam, and in the contemporary world there is, as it happens, a crying need for the propagation of this Islamic virtue.

            Arnold J. Toynbee

            Read more at http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/a/arnold_j_toynbee.html#RMK8iE2mqJkj68sY.99

          • Jim Fox

            BOLLOCKS. Like a good muslim you divert attention from your perfect, infallible, timeless “Holy Koran”. Just can’t face the ugly truth, can you!

          • Jim Fox

            OH- the slave trade… ARABS captured black Africans and sold them to the Europeans.They had been enslaving blacks for centuries.

          • Jim Fox

            “The extinction of race consciousness AS BETWEEN MUSLIMS is one of the outstanding achievements of Islam”

            But NOT regarding the najis kuffar!!

            Toynbee was a dope.

          • omgamuslim

            I may not like the fact that you insist on remaining ignorant in order to persist in your bigotry, but I shall defend unto death your right to do so.

          • Jim Fox

            Ah, ‘bigotry’… don’t forget Islamophobia and racism, will you?
            Ignorance is not a fault of mine- I know far too much about Islam
            which make dolts like you nervous.
            Topic- the Koran- remember? That book of hate you refuse to
            admit exists…

          • omgamuslim

            No. If every man is a book, I am afraid, the topic is you – the hate filled tome that makes zionists appear tame in comparison.

      • You forgot to mention that he was Muslim scum.
        Vote 1 Australian Liberty Alliance

    • Your takiya fools nobody, budallah.

      • omgamuslim

        But your zionist captrap foolseverybody. That is the problem. Shalom.

    • Jim Fox

      WANKER.

      • omgamuslim

        Who let you out?

  • Kasperlos

    It’s bad enough to have non-factual, non-biased media reports. But to have so-called adult ‘leaders’ cower and lie through their teeth is simply amazing. Or is it? Governments have a narrative to push and the PC spirit which they both engender and follow has been going on for so long now that most believe a blatant lie to be God’s (God being the state in his modern incarnation) truth. The aging appartchik staff of ex-USSR Pravda must be amazed at how they’ve pulled the charade off in the ‘free’ and ‘democratic’ West. Recall that when soldier Lee Rigby was brutally murdered in broad daylight in London the mandarins over at Westminster, Scotland Yard, MoD, and Number 10 went into immediate PC damage control and in no time painted the two killers as disgruntled men experiencing mid-life crisis issues. Right, nothing to see, move along now, just a matter for NHS. Most of the mindless masses nodded in the affirmitive at what their betters had written for what they ‘should’ believe. They went on their way and forgot about it all the next minute. Welcome to Orwell’s news cycle.

    • JohnSkookum

      “Most of the mindless masses nodded in the affirmitive at what their betters had written for what they ‘should’ believe. They went on their way and forgot about it all the next minute. ”

      Don’t be so sure. A preference cascade is slowly building. When the indigenous people of the British Isles have had enough of multi-culturalism, and figure out that all of their neighbors are sick to death of it too, I wouldn’t wish to be either a Muslim or a sneering left-wing Islington luvvie.

      • knowshistory

        if the population does ever rise up in rebellion against the vile traitors and their genocidal pets, there will not be a sneering left-wing islington luvvie to be found. they will all be patriots who were helping the people overcome the muzzies all along, and besides, the muzzies never were a real threat, just a bugbear in the overworked imagination of a few right wing extremists, the newly patriotic media will proclaim. now, they will say, that the nonexistent muzzie threat has been overcome, lets get on with paying people to breed and not work.

      • bionde

        There are already isolated attacks on Muslims. There will unboubtedly be more in future. I can forsee a very uncomfortable future where race riots of the past seem like a kindergaten scrap in comparison.

    • licjjs

      There was absolute outcry on the part of the ‘mindless masses’ over the murder of Lee Rigby, many people demanding a state funeral for him. The problem is that the government ignores what it knows the British people want.

  • Cumberland

    We are kidding ourselves if we expect islam to change islam, it is what it is, what it always has been, and will remain so, outside action is needed to neutralise it and put it detoxified, back in it’s box.

    • Peter Stroud

      And bury the box.

    • bionde

      It cannot be changed as it is supposedly the word of God passed to Mo via the Angel Gabriel and therefore immutable. In other words it is evil bollocks was always evil bollocks and will forever be evil bollocks.

  • licjjs

    It is precisely the lack of intellectual and moral honesty of the pseudo-liberal PC brigade that makes them so contemptible. Like Coco the puppet they “can stand on their heads while making their beds….if somebody else pulls the strings”

  • Zalacain

    “The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.”
    Edmund Burke
    Or “say nothing”, I would add.

  • Kimiliew

    Your leaders are a bunch of cowards and your laws need to be revised.

  • Kasperlos

    David Cameron said himself only two months ago that Britain faces an existential threat from extremist Islam. The country cries out for a Lord Protector O. Cromwell or a Field Marshal B. L. Montgomery in these perilous times, but delivered is a Marquess of Queensberry. A tragicomedy that is ripe for a West End production.

  • telh

    Without strong leadership on ISLAMIC terrorism, politicians are creating the climate in which violent right wing groups will blossom. Time for some serious legal constraints to be placed on Islam – or simply outlaw it.

    • Gordon Fraser

      Been saying this for 15 years to the disgust of zombified PC air heads now around us all. They only foment what they fear the most.

  • LadyMoonlight

    I urge everyone to read the book The Story of Mohammad Islam Unveiled by Harry Richardson. You can buy a copy or read it online for free. It is an excellent read; the language is easy to read without pretentious over use of long, impressive words, the facts are stated, and easily verified with research. This book should be compulsory reading for every politician in the Western world and every kafir on the planet.

  • knowshistory

    will other faith groups be targeted as well? excellent point. why not? lets target, round up, and expel any “faith group” whose holy scriptures advocate murder, pedophilia, religiously motivated lying, religiously motivated rape, and religiously motivated genocide. lets not let the media or government decide which faith groups are genocidal, though. the media and government have a terrible track record in those matters. we might do better to just ask the members of the “faith group”.

  • Faith of Our Fathers

    Always remember as Obama said that there were Christian terrorists at the time of the Crusades . Who on here is sick to the teeth watching T V reading newspapers being on the Internet and all we here is Mooslems rights for this that and the other . Time to tell them T F O and give the rest of us peace.

  • What a brilliant article!

  • plainsdrifter

    Yes, the Aussies are as politically correct as we are. Unbelievable!

    • Davedeparis

      Unfortunately we’re worse.

  • Jim Fox

    omgamuslim—

    Simple question- in EVERY conflagration/suicide bombing/beheading/amputation/enslavement/ [but ONE] on Earth at present, what is the common factor?

    Afghanistan… Pakistan… Syria…Iraq… Nigeria… Somalia… Gaza… Israel… Egypt… Sinai… Libya… Thailand… Philippines… Tunisia… Turkey… and many I can’t think of right now.

    Christians/ Mormons/ Hindus/ Sikhs/ Buddhists/ Catholics/ Taoists/ Amish/ Animists/ Atheists/
    Jews/ Baptists/ Scientologists/ ???
    Nope- I just can’t think of the name of that belief system!!!

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