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Donald Trump makes me feel very European

If DT becomes President we may all be surprised by how pro-EU we feel

27 February 2016

9:00 AM

27 February 2016

9:00 AM

There are still four months to go before the vote, but I already feel quite exhausted by the Europe referendum campaign. Such has been the excitement in the British press that I have taken to starting the day by reading the New York Times online, which is so uninterested in this historic matter that it never seems to mention it at all. Monday’s British papers, announcing Boris Johnson’s defection to the Brexit camp, provided the kind of coverage you’d expect if the country had just won a war. Indeed, the Daily Telegraph looked exactly as if it had, with most of its front page, including its logo, consumed by an enormous colour photograph of a triumphant, smiling Boris acknowledging the applause of an invisible crowd. He looked a bit like Churchill on VE Day.

Most other papers had Boris on their front pages too, but the Times, for example, showed him looking like a frenzied, jutting-jawed rabble-rouser. I might have taken these choices of photo as first indications of which side each paper would eventually take in the referendum, had not the Daily Mail, which seems already to be heading inexorably for Brexit, decided to use the same repulsive photo of Boris as the Times.

In any event, the Brexit campaign has got off to a flying start. It has acquired convincing leaders in Boris and Michael Gove, who see it as a home for the bold and the free, those ready to take risks, who believe that Britain can be great on its own again. Those arrayed against them are portrayed as wimps and cowards, with no faith in their country, or members of a secretive establishment bent on survival and self-enrichment, whatever the cost to the rest of us. The more that groups of bankers and businessmen come out publicly against Brexit, the greater the chance will be of it happening.


One of the problems for those, like David Cameron, campaigning to stay in is that they do not themselves believe in the ideals that inspired the founders of the European Community in the first place — an end to European wars being the main one — and therefore have no arguments to offer in favour of membership other than what are in effect forms of scaremongering. And Cameron feels obliged to moderate even this by conceding that Britain would be able to cope perfectly well, whatever the outcome of the referendum.

In the old days, many of those who opposed membership of the EU were Atlanticists who wanted Britain to stay, for the sake of its safety and prosperity, closer to the United States than to the other countries of Europe. But we don’t hear from them any more. Nobody is urging us to snuggle up to the Americans. And this may not only be because of a patriotic conviction that we’d manage very well on our own. It could also be because America has seldom felt more alien than it does now. If the anti-establishment revolt in the US results in the election of Donald Trump as President, we may be surprised at how pro-European we start to feel.

Perhaps I should come clean. I would like Britain to remain a member of the EU because I still like the idea of it, whatever its faults, and I like to feel accepted by other Europeans as being what I think I am —namely one of them. But how to ensure that the referendum goes the way I would like? I don’t think Cameron or George Osborne will be of much help, though I think that Alan will give the other Johnson a good run for his money.

But scaremongering is clearly the way ahead, and I rest my hopes mainly on Nicola Sturgeon. Not only is she popular and a good campaigner; she has in her armoury the scariest weapon of all. This is her threat, quite justified in my opinion, to call for another referendum on Scottish independence if Scotland votes to stay in the EU and the UK as a whole votes to leave. William Hague wrote in the Daily Telegraph this week of his ‘strong belief that if the UK leaves the EU, Scotland is much more likely to leave the UK’. I agree with him; and I also agree with what he said next: ‘How would we feel about freeing ourselves from Europe if our own country disintegrated as a result?’

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  • MC73

    I find Trump a lot less alien than the other bible-bashing, gun-loving Republican candidates. I find it hard to see Hillary as a human being at all. Every time I see her, I start to wonder if David Icke was right about the lizards…

    • Leftism is a societal cancer

      Nothing wrong with wanting guns to protect yourself and family. Especially when you have criminals pouring over the southern border.

      • jeremy Morfey

        I prefer man-eating Ickean lizards. They’re safer in the hands of lunatics.

      • Svetlana Sychkinova

        You mean rich English going to Scotland to rip off property deals?

        • Leftism is a societal cancer

          No, I’m talking about the millions of Mestizo rapists and drug pushers pouring into the United States.

      • Mary Ann

        You and Trump should get on well. How many children die in the USA every year of gunshot wounds? Trump doesn’t even want a person’s sanity question before they are allowed to purchase a gun.

        • WTF

          Check your facts instead of posting drivel. Despite having a high gun ownership in the USA there are many other countries with a higher rate of gun deaths than America, Uruguay, South Africa, Brazil, Colombia and Guatemala for example have much higher rates but that’s not the complete story by a long way.

          Gun deaths of children in places like Chicago are from illegally owned guns by drug criminals but the progressive liberals in charge of that city refuse to enforce draconian gun laws that are in place and could be used or even strengthen them because of political correctness.

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate

          • Caviar luvvie

            Chicago, Obama’s legacy..

          • WTF

            It sure is but he NEVER talks about the black on black killing that’s like an epidemic over there but gets vocal every time a cop shoots a person who refuses to obey a lawful request like “put that weapon down” and then they end up getting killed. Perhaps if ‘criminals’ did what they were told as most of us do when a cop tells us to do something they’d be less dead anti-social drug dealers on the streets of Chicago or Baltimore.

        • Leftism is a societal cancer

          “You and Trump should get on well.” – Thanks. I certainly hope we would.

          “How many children die in the USA every year of gunshot wounds?” – I don’t know. Do you?

          How many in Montana and New Hampshire. Murder rates and crime rates correlate more strongly with racial demographics rather than poverty or gun laws.

      • Caviar luvvie

        In the month of January alone, approximately 100,000 extra gun permit requests, were filed in Germany.

        When your police won’t protect you, and you have no army, I guess you gotta do what you gotta do.

    • Svetlana Sychkinova

      Melania has hypnotized you.

    • Sanctimony

      Bill is the Komodo Dragon; Hilary merely his cipher… Icke and the Bilderberg Group are probably more realistic than many think….

  • polidorisghost

    “If DT becomes President we may all be surprised by how pro-EU we feel”

    No, just pro-british

  • Sid Falco

    “I would like Britain to remain a member of the EU because I still like the idea of it, whatever its faults, and I like to feel accepted by other Europeans as being what I think I am —namely one of them.”

    That, in all its stupidity, is what people who want to stay in the EU think.

    • Pip

      The author is a paid for Propagandist.

      • Mary Ann

        Are you saying that the in campaign are paying his wages, I though it was the Spectator.

        • Pip

          The Worlds mainstream media is controlled by only 5 men, those 5 men are all part of the NWO Globalist Elite and serve their agenda, simple as that, there is no truth to be had in the MSM, only lies, propaganda and fearmongering, written by immoral dishonest people in service to their masters.

        • livnletliv

          You should know.

  • davidshort10

    If Scotland wants to be a separate nation, so be it. They joined us a while ago for financial reasons. If I were Scottish, and I am a quarter Scottish, I would leave the Union. It’s good to be a nation. Which is why it’s good to leave the EU.

    • Giambologna

      I don’t buy the argument that if we leave the EU Scotland leaves us. It voted to stay part of the UK, and polls suggest that voting intentions in the EU ref are not much different from those in England.

      If the UK were out of the EU and Scotland then left the UK, Scotland would just be a vassal of Brussels, with very little ‘independence’. It would be ridiculous choice to make, purely moving the main center for policy decisions from London, with our shared culture, history, language and physical proximity, to Brussels, with none of those, and also without democratic accountability, and no allegiance to the Scottish people.

      The SNP’s entire manifesto was based on an oil price well above $100 a barrel. The country would be bankrupt if in now went independent in a couple of years.

      • davidshort10

        If and when we leave the EU, Scotland also leaves. If it wishes to rejoin, it will have to have another referendum to leave the UK. If it ‘wins’, it will then have to reapply. If it succeeds it will be part of Schengen and we will have a border between Scotland and the rest of the United Kingdom. It will also have the euro. No more Scottish pound notes that are hard to spend in England (and Wales). I didn’t go to Scotland till I was in my 40s. There is no reason to. What a pity that we would not be able to deport the MD of the Spectator!

        • Giambologna

          Good points. The whole argument, that a vote to leave the EU, will result in Scotland leaving, is another argument based in poor logic and scaremongering.

          Although I don’t agree Scotland should leave the Union. I see the attractions for it in independence, but the track record of Scotland and England (and the others) united is so strong, and the drawbacks so small, I think on balance they would be better staying in. But then I am English.

        • MichtyMe

          Upon separating from the EU will not the UK be required to join Schengen, just like Norway and Switzerland?

          • Pioneer

            No.

          • Mary Ann

            If Britain wants to keep current trade deals with the EU, yes, and as half of the supporters for the leave campaign want to go because of migration, they are either going to be very disappointed or we give up the advantages of the trade deals to keep them happy. Ooops

          • WTF

            Trade deals cut both ways, the way you’re talking is as though we just export to the EU but import nothing. If we leave, they’ll probably be renegotiation of trades deals between us as the EU exports 300 billion to us and we export 200 billion to them. Either way, we wont be disadvantaged as they have more to lose than us. Trade with the EU is a 2 way deal, not the one way deal your fear-mongering over without any facts to back it up.

            You clearly know nothing about how trade works, life will continue as before except we wont be lumbered with immigrants that Merkel & Juncker invited into the EU as it will be their problem.

            What is it with you and your ‘pronouncements’ of the end of days for the UK if we leave when you offer no proof to back it up ? Is it your friends in France who are ‘experts’ in EU law and treaties who are scare mongering you again ?

          • jazz606

            You think we have a say in the rules ? We get out voted at every turn.
            Time to leave.

      • Lord Muck of Cowshit Farm

        It would be a ridiculous choice for Scotland to leave the UK but don’t underestimate their hatred of England.

    • Marvin

      What would you live on OIL?

      • MichtyMe

        I bet you also think that the Swiss live on the manufacture of cuckoo clocks and toblerone and the Dutch on the sale of gouda cheese and tulips.

  • davidshort10

    The Labour manifesto in 1983 said we would leave what was then the EEC.. Why does the fellow who most closely resembles Foot want to stay in?

  • Giambologna

    Surely convoluting Europe with the EU is the ultimate in stupidity and partisan writing. Clearly after the vote we will still be an island next to the landmass of continental Europe, but we might not be part of a 1950/60s political invention called the European Union. The EU does not consist of all European countries, several successful countries such as Norway and Switzerland are not in it, and Russia are also not part of it (question: why? interesting answer this one).

    The cosmopolitan nature of Europe is so wonderful precisely because of the differences between nations and their cultures, between Italy, France, Spain, the UK etc. Travelling from London to Florence, to Toulouse, to Dresden is a blessing because they are so different, and yet also wonderful. Why try to make us all the same, with the same shared culture and future?

    The question to ask is if the EU is the right institution to lead us going forward. Doesn’t its past and present failures, its supranational form of government, its purposefully secretive nature, and one-size-fits-all top down nature make it an ill-fit in the modern world?

    • Mary Ann

      If Russia because part of the EU then the arms industry would suffer, can’t have that. It must be a some time since you travelled in Europe, when we go we keep a look out for McDs, the toilets are always clean although there is little else to recommend them. You have to accept the fact that with the internet accessible around the world and American Corporations, there soon won’t be any cute places in the world left unless they are manufactured by Disney, it’s called progress and it’s what most of the world wants.

      • WTF

        What prompted a reference to Russia and why would the arms industry suffer, where did that come from ?

        As for public conveniences in France, my American female friends weren’t that impressed with the hole in the ground on autoroutes when they were dying for a pee and especially the stench in summer. There’s still plenty of cute places in Europe to visit as I’ve found in both France & Spain, just get off the tourist spots and they are everywhere.

        Disney is really the only American corporation that has built complexes outside the USA in France, Japan, HK & China but lets not be hasty in blaming them, the only reason Eurodisney was built was ‘kick backs’ on land costs offered by the French government. They should have built it along the Costas in Spain where the climate is closer to California or Florida not the freezing north east corner of France 20 miles from Paris.

      • jazz606

        Are you suggesting that the only clean toilets on the continent are run by the US ?

        • WTF

          A very weird comment bringing continental loos into the EU discussion, perhaps she’s bereft of anything else to post ! Almost like Monty Python’s Life of Brian and “what did the Romans do for us” !

    • WTF

      Couldn’t agree more as variety is the charm of the EU at the moment but if Merkel & Juncker get their way it will be one quasi communist state even more subservient to Brussels than right now. But that’s not going to happen as 90% of Germans are against Merkels migrant policies, other EU countries are looking for an opportunity to leave and the EU is even threatening to expel Greece, but what they have done wrong I haven’t a clue. Brexit could trigger the breakdown of the EU even if it doesn’t happen on its own before June.

  • Davedeparis

    Trump is not at all representative of American Conservatives who understandably, hate his guts. He would however be right at home in Mme Le Pen’s protectionist, big government Front Nationale.

    • Tim Conte

      This is rather like the disconnect in the Labour Party between the Parliamentary LP and the grassroots. Corbyn represents a majority view amongst Labour Party members in the country, apparently. Trump may not be the toast of the Republican establishment, but his views reflect the grass-roots of Republican ploitics in the USA. Throw in Ted Cruz, who is another anti-establishment figure and almost as objectionable, and it appears clear that the bible bashing gun tooting libertarians are the only show in town.

      • Davedeparis

        Sadly that may be true.

      • Mary Ann

        So if Labour keep Corbyn our next government will be Labour, you could be right, it might explain why the right wing press are being so awful to him, the’re scared.

        • Ron Todd

          I’m scared. I don’t think he will ever get power but just the small chance of him being PM scares me.

    • Pioneer

      He does not represent open borders,TTP loving donor class Rinos.

      • Davedeparis

        Since when has free trade not been a Republican cause?

    • I AM GOD

      Don’t forget the Dutch Geert Wilders’ PVV

  • putin

    “‘if the UK leaves the EU, Scotland is much more likely to leave the UK’” Well that settles it, two birds with one stone. Anything to get wee Jimmy Sturgeon off my telescreen. Just so long as, like Trump, PM Boris builds a fence and makes her pay for it. Fan-dabby-dozy.

    • Mary Ann

      I suppose if the Labour party can elect Corbyn then there is no reason that the Tories can’t elect Bo Jo, everyone seems to be losing their heads.

      • jazz606

        You clearly lost yours long ago.

  • Marvin

    Donald Trump is the antidote to the liberal, spineless, sandal wearing amoebas who think that everyone in the world is born equal. My REAR! tell that to the bloke who pulls a rickshaw in Calcutta, or the people in Africa who know only to breed children into this world to suffer hunger and thirst, or the Jihadi Johns that have a lust to cut their heads off, slowly.

    • Svetlana Sychkinova

      Don’t get too excited. Caaaalm… caaaalm….

  • Terence Wilkinson

    Oh dear. What is it with this magazine and the SNP? It’s writers fall for their bluster every time. If the UK votes to leave the EU, the SNP will not have a second referendum. It is quite simple really: an independent Scotland would have to apply to join the EU (the EU has repeatedly told the SNP that any territory that leaves a member does not automatically gain membership of the EU). If Scotland was allowed to join (quite how it would persuade Spain not to veto membership is glossed over. But given the gloating in the SNP’s favoured organs over events in Catalonia, this could be problematic) it would have to sign up to the Euro. The Euro, by law, does not allow deficits of 8-10% of GDP, while the Germans are unlikely to be cowed by the SNP shouting at them – unlike Westminster. So by joining the Euro the SNP would be condemning Scotland to never ending austerity.
    As for Sturgeon’s alleged campaigning skills, she sure scared the English with her “progressive” rhetoric – which was the whole point as she wanted a Tory government. Of course if you examine the record of the SNP in power (it may surprise some of the writers of this magazine to read that the SNP have been in government in Scotland for almost a decade) you will soon discover that it is not progressive (since their main power base is the better off who want to assuage their guilt without actually having to put their hands in their pockets), is thoroughly incompetent and completely illiberal.
    Finally I would remind Mr Chancellor that the SNP quite blatantly blamed the elderly for their referendum loss. It was even suggested that in the event of another referendum that the elderly should have no right to vote.

    • Mary Ann

      Well if the elderly were not allowed to vote in the EU referendum on the grounds that it is not their future that is being decided, it is the future of the young, and their children’s children…….after all, there are an awful lot of Britons living in the rest of the EU who don’t get to vote despite the fact that it will affect them far more than the .people living in England.

      • WTF

        Most young voters are clueless about history, geography, economics and the EU infrastructure plus many of them can’t even do simple mental arithmetic. I’d argue that a basic IQ plus the 3 R’s should be a requirement to have a vote as with age comes wisdom.

      • jazz606

        So you’re promoting age discrimination ?

      • RavenRandom

        Oh that’s a bit anti-democratic. You should only allow those to vote that might agree with you. Very dodgy, very apology for tyranny.

      • livnletliv

        Most old people vote for what they consider is best for their children and grand children.

  • Pioneer

    “If the anti-establishment revolt in the US results in the election of
    Donald Trump as President, we may be surprised at how pro-European we
    start to feel.”

    More likely to be the opposite. The “establishment” is no longer American. It is an unholy alliance between the far left and corporataists.

    Trump’s appeal is that he believes in the concept of being American.

  • edithgrove

    You might begin by differentiating between the EU, a political/economic union, and Europe, a continent.

    • Mary Ann

      We cannot separate from the continent, visions of the sea bed splitting down the middle of the Channel and Britain sailing off into the middle of the Atlantic. Do we take the Channel islands with us?

      • WTF

        Not hard at all as we did that between 1939 to 1945 and it served us well and with the help of the USA we saved Europe from German rule.

      • edithgrove

        That is, if I understand you, my point. We will remain Europeans whatever the vote. The EU came and will eventually go. Those of us who lived and worked in continental Europe before the EU will continue to do so, or do so again, if we wish.

      • Chingford Man

        Hopefully we get rid of you.

  • John M

    So what is the point you are trying to make? That we should all vote to stay in the EU this june just in case Trump becomes President in December?

    • Mary Ann

      It would certainly be sensible to stay in the EU.

      • WTF

        Why, do you get a EU pension that’s at risk if we leave, are you concerned about your booze cruises to Calais although I doubt you risk going there at this moment in time, perhaps you go to Cherbourg or Dieppe well away from all those criminals. Being ‘sensible’ over a decision usually requires some facts to back them up, whats yours ?

        • Chingford Man

          She lives in France from where she bombards us with her left wing Europhile twittering.

          • WTF

            I bet its in the south and not Calais !

  • MikePage

    A Leave vote would change the landscape enormously and make a further Scotland Referendum very likely. Why not?

  • ChiGal

    Alex, if you are going to rely on the NYT as your conduit to the US Prez election, then no wonder you feel very European. I’d feel very Martian after reading their tripe. You’d cast a suspicious eye on anything the Guardian publishes, why not the same for the NYT? Try to remember that only the most extreme devotees of either American party vote in the primaries and The Donald represents the extreme of the extreme. It’s not that we shouldn’t take him seriously – all demagogues should be taken seriously for the harm they do – but to conclude he is representative of American conservative opinion is a serious mistake and buying into the NYT’s bigotry.

  • jeffersonian

    ‘Nobody is urging us to snuggle up to the Americans. And this may not only be because of a patriotic conviction that we’d manage very well on our own. It could also be because America has seldom felt more alien than it does now.’

    Couldn’t agree more. I mean how can you ‘snuggle up’ to a country led by a raging socialist and pro-Islamist with a penchant for knifing America’s friends in the back? And we’ve had almost eight years of this madness.

    • Mary Ann

      As with the USA where we cannot vote but who wins affects us all the same thing will happen with most of Europe if we leave the EU.

      • WTF

        We can’t vote in the EU to make any real difference so its not that different is it !

      • livnletliv

        So what, we all have a right to self determination, do you think English citizens should vote in any Scotish referendum?

    • I AM GOD

      16* years

  • Sanctimony

    What could possibly be a better result for England than getting rid of two gigantic parasites in one fell swoop… the EU and Scotland…. can’t wait !

    • Mary Ann

      Billy no mates.

      • livnletliv

        Grow up.

  • WTF

    I think you’ll find a lot of Brits are actually backing Trump and looking forward to him sorting out a ‘busted’ USA and setting us an example !

    Vetting migrants, a trump policy would be a good start after seeing the chaos and crime that Merkel & Juncker have brought to Europe.

    • I AM GOD

      Yes, merkel & Juncker started the war against iraq. They funded Al Qaida and ISIS… Maybe we should also legalize gun ownership while we’re at it.

      • WTF

        Being GOD, you should know that the migrants aren’t coming from Iraq and yes, I would legalize gun ownership if I could. The who point about owning a gun under the constitution was to have a brake or curbs on the state over-reaching its authority which has happened in many countries.

        • I AM GOD

          Im not GOD. And everybody knows that a portion of those immigrants ARE indeed from Iraq and not only Syria. And everybody knows that without the initial war against “terror”. We wouldn’t have been in this predicament. Good thing you can’t because I don’t need the wild wild west in Europe.

          • WTF

            A very small percentage are from Iraq but as to Blairs warmongering, he just precipitated what was on the cards to begin with. Islam has been waging a civil war against itself (and pretty much everyone else) ever since Mecca and Medina had a bust up in the 6th century. Shia and Sunni have been at each others throats since the outset and it was on the cards what we see now despite of Blair not because of him. He might have caused the current conflict to be brought forward a tad but nothing more and I certainly don’t let him off the hook.

            Based on the number of male vs women and children it is estimated 80% or more are not refugees but economic migrants so forget about Iraq and even Syria, its a bunch of free loaders taking advantage of Merkels open invitation to Islam. Through out history, every so often Islam decides to encroach others space and has to be driven back and this is no different.

            The wild west in Europe ? Well there’s Andre Brevik in Norway plus plenty of drive by shootings in places like Nottingham from black drug gangs and we can’t even own a legal gun. Add in gang rape, terrorism and other criminal activities, we already have the ‘wild west’ in Europe and its getting worse !

          • I AM GOD

            your sense of logic honours your name: WTF

          • WTF

            Glad you think so, but it doesn’t alter the facts which I posted !

          • I AM GOD

            you can’t speak of facts after falsely accusing people from things they didn’t do.

          • WTF

            War between Medina and Mecca

            http://attwiw.com/2013/05/15/islamic-history-part-5-muhammad-in-medina-the-taking-of-mecca-and-muhammads-death/

            Shia – Sunni conflict, oldest in history

            http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-16047709

            Blair, well he’s a lying SOB who triggered a civil war in Iraq by deposing Hussein who had kept the lid on it for sometime.

            http://spectator.org/blog/59596/waiting-die-iraq-costly-history-lesson

            Proportion of men vs women at Calais

            http://www.france24.com/en/20150914-women-migrants-calais-jungle-plight

            And finally, for gun related deaths around the world.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate

            I think that pretty much backs up my assertions by facts !

          • I AM GOD

            I was referring to your initial statement: “…Merkel & Juncker have brought to Europe”.

            But I can see you are clearly not open for being objectice, so let me help you: http://www.emigrate2.co.uk/usa/

          • WTF

            Having trouble with all the facts I supplied, information overload ?

            You’re correct, Merkel & Juncker have certainly brought the EU states together. Every one of them to a greater or lesse extent wants to distance themselves from their migrant debacle and in Germay, 90% are against Merkels migrant policies. I wonder why ?

            I’m open to debating any of my factual links or even yours if you can find any just to be objective but you seemed more interested in shutting me down. Are inconvenient objective facts a problem for you when you’d rather post subjective propaganda from the remainiacs ?

            On emigration, no need, I’ve already emigrated but I am concerned for family thats still in the UK.

  • RavenRandom

    Makes you feel more European… what German, Polish, Czech, Finnish? Because they’re all the same aren’t they? Oh they’re not? So what you mean is not American, makes you feel more British in other words. Then you should say that, otherwise your argument proceeds from a false premise.

    • Malcolm Stevas

      ? Brits are Europeans too. I’d guess that many Brits who’ve visited the USA, while liking the place and its inhabitants, nevertheless find it very foreign. I can’t speak for others but I find myself more at home travelling in Germany and France than I do in the US. I’m English first, European second.

  • Tickertapeguy

    During the “reign of terror” under Obama for 8 years there was a stream of Americans giving up their citizenship and permanently moving to other nations
    Now that dynamic Trump looks like he is going to become the next President, all the liberals, who can afford it, want to flee the US.
    From a Conservative “please leave and destroy some other nation”

  • Linda Pelham

    So, effectively, the Scots have us over a barrel?

    • Malcolm Stevas

      If so, thank God we’re not wearing kilts…

  • Vinnie

    The Guardian really is a joke. They did a piece of David Duke and his endorsement of Trump. Blathering on about him being a former Klansman, not referring to him as Dr. David Duke as he rightfully is. But then they tuck away the reason why Duke supports Trump – because he’s the least likely to starts wars. Does that sound like a white supremacist to you? No me neither.

  • HerewardWakes

    Another europhile cuckservative. Pathetic.

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